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The Real World: New Orleans' Melissa Beck looks back at being pigeonholed as "The Angry Black Woman" before social media
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t***@gmail.com
2022-05-07 09:51:12 UTC
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https://www.vox.com/23047340/real-world-new-orleans-homecoming-melissa-beck

The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and half
Black, was sent attacks via email back when Real World: New Orleans aired in
2000. “For months, I was called racist, that I’m race-obsessed, that I’m
race-baiting,” she said. “Every racist thing that could be hurled toward me
was, and I don’t think that as a cast — because we hadn’t kept in touch with
each other over the years — they understood that perspective or the impact
that had on my life.” As Vox's Alex Abad-Santos points out, Beck easily
became part of "The Angry Black Woman" stereotype. "Because she was seen as
inherently rage-filled — an Angry Black Woman — anything she criticized
became easy to dismiss, whether it was a situation that’s plainly racist like
the one on the boat or her business dispute with Julie.," says Abad-Santos,
adding that "sustained, harmful pop culture portrayals... generate real-world
bias with real-world effects. Studies have shown that the Angry Black Woman
stereotype has led to Black women receiving negative performance evaluations
at work, less effective mental health treatment, and discrimination during
maternity care." ALSO: Danny Roberts reflects on being considered "a gay sex
symbol zapped into the basement rec rooms of teenagers who had never
encountered such a creature."
Adam H. Kerman
2022-05-09 17:10:35 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and half
Black, . . .
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
Ubiquitous
2022-05-10 14:22:30 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and
half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.

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anim8rfsk
2022-05-10 16:13:33 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and
half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of the
birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
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shawn
2022-05-10 19:26:46 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and
half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of the
birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
Ubiquitous
2022-05-10 20:17:50 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian
and half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of
the birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
According to Google, the guide called it a "nigger goose", but I still have no
recollection of the incident.
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anim8rfsk
2022-05-10 21:01:45 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian
and half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of
the birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
According to Google, the guide called it a "nigger goose", but I still have no
recollection of the incident.
My hits said “stork” but as I said elsewhere I don’t think we ever heard
what he actually said or saw what he was actually pointing to.
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Ubiquitous
2022-05-11 11:39:25 UTC
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I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn't like the name of one of
the birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
According to Google, the guide called it a "nigger goose", but I still
have no recollection of the incident.
My hits said "stork" but as I said elsewhere I don't think we ever heard
what he actually said or saw what he was actually pointing to.
I made a half-arsed effort but wasn't able to find any clips or references to
it.

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anim8rfsk
2022-05-10 21:01:44 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and
half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of the
birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
The latter.

I had to dig. I don’t think they ever told us what the guy actually said.
From Ian’s Wikipedia entry:

“On a boat trip in Louisiana, the boat guide referred to a type of stork
the group spotted as a "nigger stork".[16] Melissa took offense to the
comment, and to the fact that Jamie was not as offended.”

I have no idea if the thing has another name or what it is. Siri and Google
pretty much won’t let me search for the offensive word at all. When I do
get past it I only get a handful of hits.

There are two types of storks in Louisiana. Both are mostly white with a
darker head. But I don’t even know if the thing he pointed to is properly a
stork. I can’t find an actual clip of what happened.

So on the show it played out that a guide pointed to something we didn’t
see and called it something we didn’t hear and Melissa had an end of the
world fit and was furious at other people for not being properly indignant.
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shawn
2022-05-10 21:17:11 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and
half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of the
birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
The latter.
I had to dig. I don’t think they ever told us what the guy actually said.
“On a boat trip in Louisiana, the boat guide referred to a type of stork
the group spotted as a "nigger stork".[16] Melissa took offense to the
comment, and to the fact that Jamie was not as offended.”
I have no idea if the thing has another name or what it is. Siri and Google
pretty much won’t let me search for the offensive word at all. When I do
get past it I only get a handful of hits.
There are two types of storks in Louisiana. Both are mostly white with a
darker head. But I don’t even know if the thing he pointed to is properly a
stork. I can’t find an actual clip of what happened.
So on the show it played out that a guide pointed to something we didn’t
see and called it something we didn’t hear and Melissa had an end of the
world fit and was furious at other people for not being properly indignant.
I found this reference to "nigger geese":
DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANT. Phalacrocorax au&us au&us. An
extremely common bird along the coast during the winter. On Lost
Island, December 10, 1918, Bailey recorded thus: "The 'nigger geese'
were seen by hundreds. We went ashore on one sandspit after dark,
with a flashlight, and the birds allowed us within ten feet of them.
Their eyes gleamed in the light, and there was a constant shuffling of
feet in the hard sand as the big flock moved in front of us. The near-
est birds floundered out of the way, but they did not seem greatly
alarmed." Cormorants were seen by thousands at Grand Isle, March
15, 1919
https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/wilson/v043n02/p0114-p0142.pdf
anim8rfsk
2022-05-11 03:16:03 UTC
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The reality star formerly known as Melissa Howard, who is half Asian and
half Black
Was she Asian on the left side, and has she now transitioned to Asian on
the right side?
I remember her. She was an idiot. And it seems she hasn't changed.
I only have the vaguest of memories about her on the show.
I certainly don't remember her doing anything egregious.
IIRC they went out on an airboat and she didn’t like the name of one of the
birds the guide pointed out and had a complete meltdown over it.
Did the guide call it by the name of one of her ex beaus? Or did she
just not like the actual name of the bird and decide she's going to
have a fit with this person that had nothing to do with the naming of
the bird?
The latter.
I had to dig. I don’t think they ever told us what the guy actually said.
“On a boat trip in Louisiana, the boat guide referred to a type of stork
the group spotted as a "nigger stork".[16] Melissa took offense to the
comment, and to the fact that Jamie was not as offended.”
I have no idea if the thing has another name or what it is. Siri and Google
pretty much won’t let me search for the offensive word at all. When I do
get past it I only get a handful of hits.
There are two types of storks in Louisiana. Both are mostly white with a
darker head. But I don’t even know if the thing he pointed to is properly a
stork. I can’t find an actual clip of what happened.
So on the show it played out that a guide pointed to something we didn’t
see and called it something we didn’t hear and Melissa had an end of the
world fit and was furious at other people for not being properly indignant.
DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANT. Phalacrocorax au&us au&us. An
extremely common bird along the coast during the winter. On Lost
Island, December 10, 1918, Bailey recorded thus: "The 'nigger geese'
were seen by hundreds. We went ashore on one sandspit after dark,
with a flashlight, and the birds allowed us within ten feet of them.
Their eyes gleamed in the light, and there was a constant shuffling of
feet in the hard sand as the big flock moved in front of us. The near-
est birds floundered out of the way, but they did not seem greatly
alarmed." Cormorants were seen by thousands at Grand Isle, March
15, 1919
https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/wilson/v043n02/p0114-p0142.pdf
Thanks! That explains why I couldn’t find it among the storks.

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